tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post1588086060740301964..comments2023-10-26T22:06:11.166+11:00Comments on Metamagician3000: Jack of Kent on WikiLeaksRussell Blackfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12431324430596809958noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-72375486603933506772010-12-14T14:08:00.645+11:002010-12-14T14:08:00.645+11:00"those who wield power in the public interest..."those who wield power in the public interest should normally have some democratic mandate or accountability."<br /><br />this is silly. a private citizen is free to act in his own interest, but if he acts in the public interest it has to be put to a vote??flieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438262506920089149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-59750966086183357242010-12-11T14:11:24.317+11:002010-12-11T14:11:24.317+11:00tomh: Yes, Lieberman displays above average zeal i...tomh: Yes, Lieberman displays above average zeal in his authoritarianism.SimonSayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04748847530760277608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-4893615100871498432010-12-11T10:36:51.344+11:002010-12-11T10:36:51.344+11:00SimonSays wrote:
So in terms of what is being publ...SimonSays wrote:<br /><i>So in terms of what is being published, they are cooperating and behaving no differently than their newspaper partners.</i><br /><br />And there are elected federal officials who would go after newspapers in the same way that they want to go after Wikileaks. In an interview with Fox News on Tuesday, Senator Joe Lieberman said that federal prosecutors should conduct a "very intensive inquiry” into the question of whether or not news organizations had committed a crime by publishing leaked documents.tomhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-45407211988266030432010-12-11T08:09:06.606+11:002010-12-11T08:09:06.606+11:00"Hopefully he'll have more to say now tha..."Hopefully he'll have more to say now that things have moved on"<br /><br />Yup. A short post at the New Statesman : http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2010/12/meaning-liberals-assangeTony Lloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03740295390214409286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-5320200908033566492010-12-11T02:45:18.926+11:002010-12-11T02:45:18.926+11:00Good post, however I'm not sure if I get his a...Good post, however I'm not sure if I get his argument that: <br /><br /><i>"those who wield power in the public interest should normally have some democratic mandate or accountability. However, no one has voted for WikiLeaks, nor does it have any form of democratic supervision. Indeed, it is accountable to no one at all."</i><br /><br />How is Wikileaks different from the traditional press in this respect?Ernst Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02978654004931641374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-15454965101142663232010-12-10T23:57:53.812+11:002010-12-10T23:57:53.812+11:00The "I didn't vote for Wikileaks" ta...The "I didn't vote for Wikileaks" talking point has been brought up repeatedly and frankly is logically nonsensical given the real-life facts. Wikileaks is publishing the <i>exact same</i> cables as the NY Times and the Guardian-in fact giving them access to those cables before the public and working with them on redactions. So in terms of what is being published, they are cooperating and behaving no differently than their newspaper partners.<br /><br />Would Jack of Kent -or any sensible commentator- say "I didn't vote for the New York Times" or otherwise accuse them of being somehow democratically unaccountable any time they publish the same cables? Absolutely not.SimonSayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04748847530760277608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-49834319499854846762010-12-10T19:46:35.203+11:002010-12-10T19:46:35.203+11:00Have you read Johan Hari's take?
http://www.i...Have you read Johan Hari's take?<br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-this-case-must-not-obscure-what-wikileaks-has-told-us-2154109.htmlBriannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24761391.post-81516081395593019902010-12-10T18:51:14.854+11:002010-12-10T18:51:14.854+11:00I'm quite concerned about state governments po...I'm quite concerned about state governments possibly shutting down wikileaks based on its alleged wrongdoings, and in so doing bulldozing over the legitimate and widely acknowledged public interest being served by wikileaks.<br /><br />We could end up treating a draconian expression of force as if it were some sort of even-handed decision compatible with the principled concern for security. <br /><br />And it would co-opt what might otherwise have been a substantial amount of the healthy public backlash. The promise of backlash is likely one of the safeguards preventing state encroachment.josef johannhttp://josefjohann.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com